I HAVE worked at animal shelters, so don't presume to lecture me, dear. I've seen firsthand, repeatedly, at what people - both ignorant *and* willingly - have done to animals.

I have not, nor have I ever implied, she would do anything of the sort. However, I WAS saying that shaking was not the ideal method of disciplining a kitten.

My cats are perfectly well behaved and I've never had to resort to physical violence to teach them appropriate behaviour. Both of them are shelter rescues, one of whom I rehabilitated myself.

So please to think first before assuming you know squat about someone you've never met, hmm?